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AMC 401 Scam
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06/30/08
Chuck receives a call from Keith
Ratliff:
Keith(below) tells Chuck more about his dealings
with Michael Joey Wright and provides the
ebay account and email address(junkmanjoes@aol.com) that
was used for his scam. During the call, Keith also finds his
account on MySpace and confirms that this is the guy he
tracked down at the pet grooming shop. Keith stated "The
item I bought was a 1989 Honda Elite 150 Scooter, Red in color,
good tires and title, 1700 or 1400 miles. I paid $1950.00 for it
and paid with Western Union money orders. He had me send them in
$50 increments.".
05/28/08
Chuck receives an email in response
to one of his CraigsList scam postings:
guy who is doing this is Michael "Joey"
Wright of Frankfort/Lexington KY..... he has used the
names of every person he has ever been in contact with to steal.
He is a fulltime thief.
Keith Ratliff
nntllc@gmail.com
ANOTHER reference to "Michael" AND "Kentucky". There IS a Michael Joey Wright in Frankfort/Lexington,
KY. Notice how one
of the previous victims of 10 years ago, Steven Clark, said he thought his name was "Michael Knight", which is only off by 2 letters
and that he got arrested in Jefferson
County/ Louisville, KY,
just a few miles from Frankfort/Lexington. Coincidence?...... I don't think so!
Chuck's
reply: "Thanks for the info. How do you know
about him?"
Keith's reply: "Lost
money to him when he was running another internet scam some years
ago."
Keith's next reply: "I
bought a scooter from him that never came, then he sold a engine
or something using my name but his address and my number.... When
I got a call about the engine I got po'ed so I went to the
address which was a trailer park on the westside of Frankfort KY(455 Jones Ln.,
Frankfort, KY 40601). It
was his mom's or dad's house they said he moved to Lexington off
the Richmond Rd. I tried to hunt him down many times. I happened
into a grooming shop in Lexington a few years back and there was
the guy who I knew as Joey Wright running the shop. Needless to
say he made all kinds of promises bu went back a couple month
later and he had closed up shop. Ask neighbors but no luck on
where he went."
05/15/08
Chuck receives a message from the
friend of Gary's:
Hi folks, I strated a thread about this scammer
asshole on the amc forum site. A local fellow here got ripped off
and called me. Go read:
http://amccars.net/cgi/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1210178111
05/12/08
Gary receives another message from Steven
Clark:
his name might have been Ken
Summers, or Sommers, or that
might have been another alias.
05/09/08
Chuck receives another email from Tom:
CHUCK:
"RANDY" HAS CALLED ME TWO MORE TIMES THIS WEEK, BUT
DIDN'T LEAVE A MESSAGE BUT THE NUMBER ON THE CALLER ID WAS THE
"6619" ENDING FROM ARIZONA. IF I SPEAK TO HIM, I'LL
TELL HIM I NEED AN ADDRESS SO I CAN MAIL HIM MONEY FOR THE 401'S.
ANY LUCK WITH ANYTHING ELSE...TOM IN MINN.
05/08/08
Gary receives another message from Steven
Clark:
Hi Gary, I went through everywhere I might have
saved any papers and can't come up with anything. no emails
either becuase I abandoned that address. I don't think I can
help beyond the aliases, Michael Knight
might have been his real name, I know Barlow
was an alias, thats the name he gave me, Knight
might have been a name that the Lagrange
guy came up with. Must have been between
late 97 and the end of 2000, which is a big range I
know. I think the arrest was some time later in the
range. I would see if Jefferson county
KY police can find a Michael or Mike
Knight or Barlow alias in a case in 99 or 2000 where some guy
from Lagrange (Phil something???) and possibly me, Steven Clark,
were witnesses. This lagrange guy had a HUGE amount
of info on this guy, it was a little weird actually. Maybe
it was his hobby. Its got to be the same scammer, talking
about a 401 out of fbi cars and having me western union the
money. Some talk of putting one in a gremlin. maybe a
louisville craigslist add will net some more info? If
anything jogs my memory I'll let you know. Good luck.
Steven Clark
javelin1973401@yahoo.com
05/08/08
Gary receives a message from a guy
that saw a posting about this scam on an AMC website:
From: Steven Clark javelin1973401@yahoo.com
Hello, it's got to be the same guy that got me probably 10 years
ago now for 3 or 4 hundered, via our local bargain mart, in louisville ky. Same
song and dance about 401 fbi cars and a shipping company.
I think his alias back then was "michael
knight" or maybe Ray.
He ended up getting arrested in Louisvile
and spending some time behind bars, but I never got a dime of my
money back. some guy in lagrange had a bunch of info on the
guy but I can't find his email now.
Steven Clark
*
I'll try to dig up any info that I can. I
dont' have any more info in email but maybe something on paper,
I'll have to go through some old stuff to see. I can almost
remember the guy's name in lagrange, I'll keep trying to
remember. I'll let you know. If you got scammed out of
enough money, and it was across state lines you might be able to
contact the fbi.
Steven
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Louisville
PD said they could pull the case:
Louisville Metro Police
Department
633 West Jefferson Street
Louisville, Kentucky 40202
(502) 574-7660
http://www.lmpd.org/
05/08/08
Chuck receives a message from Larry about a call from "Randy":
Chuck:
I talked to Randy today. He said that my parts were 500
miles from me and that he was going to put it into storage when
it got here. I could then get it when the courts released it
because he was having problems with you and Gary. He said I could
see it but not get to it and that we would see each other face to
face. I said if it was going into storage I was going to start
the process for him to get locked up. Thats when he
started yelling at me. He said it would cost me at least
5000 to defend against his lawyer. He said he had nothing
to loose and I had it all to loose. He said I would be the
one looking bad. Larry
05/07/08
Chuck receives a message from a
friend of Gary's:
I took liberties with your ad as I just talked to
a fellow locally who got taken with scam scam for $700. So I
posted this on www.amccars.net
also amc-list, bad ass gremlins, and several online places. Also
forwarded the info you left here to several national AMC clubs
and several national mixed make car magazines I subscribe and
contribute to.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@planethoustonamx.com
www.planethoustonamx.com
05/07/08
Gary receives a call from "Randy":
"Randy"
called Gary around 9:30am. He began ranting about Gary and Chuck
for 20 minutes, saying that he had to spend their money to hire
an attorney to defend himself against the charges that were being
filed. He stated that because of that, Gary and Chuck would not
be receiving a refund or merchandise. And that because the amount
was under $1,000 for each of them, no felony charges could be
placed on him. He stated that because Larry's amount was $3,000
and he wasn't being a "jerk", he would be getting a
refund. However, Larry had heard nothing from "Randy"
since last week and his failed delivery date was yesterday. He
taunted Gary by saying "how in the hell are you going to do
anything without a last name?". He blamed the failed deliveries on
Gary and Chuck, stating that if we had answered his calls when he
was in their areas, they would have their stuff. NO CALLS were
placed by "Randy" to Gary or Chuck on the 19th and
there will be NO phone records to support his claim.
05/06/08
Chuck receives an email from Tom about calls from "Randy":
CHUCK: ANY RESULTS ON
"CATCHING" RANDY. HE CALLED ME AND LEFT A MESSAGE ON MY
ANSWERING MACHINE THIS MORNING (TUES)...."TOM, IT'S RANDY W/ THE
401'S, GIVE ME A CALL",
NO NUMBER AND IT SHOWED "OUT OF AREA" ON MY ANSWERING
MACHINE. THEN HE CALLED ME AGAIN TONIGHT AND LEFT ANOTHER MESSAGE
AND IT SHOWED THE NUMBER FROM AZ WITH THE LAST FOUR
DIGITS...."6619". LET ME KNOW IF I CAN DO ANYTHING
ELSE. TOM IN MINN
05/05/08
Chuck receives an email from "Randy"s supposed
"counsel":
Mr. Hughes, First of all
save your rambling threats for the person intended. I will handle
this matter in the most professional manner possible. However, I
will not tolerate your foul/ignorant mouth. Have your
counsel email me with his contact information, and I will respond
accordingly.
Furthermore, I will caution you against filing bogus charges against my client. Slander, libel and defamation suits are very costly no matter the outcome. My client has advised me that he was not in Odessa today, but, Dallas as his message clearly relates...at the parking lot of Medevil Times off Stemmens Freeway. He waited nearly two (2) hours..no-one showed. As to the "alleged others" they will see a refund "if" their actions thus far do not damage my clients reputation further.
You need to remember that charges can come from both ends, as well as civil actions for damages. I have advised my client to file charges for threatening by use of computer, harrassment and fraud. You need to really research what you are talking about before you go off half-cocked! What I mean is simple...
If someone was to plan a game like you accuse, they would most likely buy a second-hand computer, so an IP code would lead you knowwhere. Then they would probably get throw-away cell phones that don't have any personal info attached to them. They also would likely open a walmart acct. in a bogus name. So, you could chase you tail and never get anywhere.
Why I mention this, is simple. If you slander the name of the wrong person, you could end up in financial ruin very fast. wal-mart is in enough trouble right now for stupid actions. I doubt that they will help you at all. So, please don't email me anymore with your mouth. Just have your counsel contact me. It will be much better that way..
Sincerely
B>D> GARRETT
bobbydalegarrett@yahoo.com
NOTE:
Notice that his
"legal counsel" misspells "harassment", one
the most common words in the legal community.
ALSO, notice that he states that "Randy" was in Dallas
when he called Chuck and told him to meet him in "1
hour" or he wouldn't get his merchandise. Dallas is 353
miles from Odessa!
05/05/08
Chuck initiates a case with the
Odessa Police Dept.:
Officers arrived and wrote the
report and issued case # 08-8415.
05/05/08
5:51pm
Chuck receives another call from
"Randy" via phone #702-589-6619:
Chuck received a call from
"Randy"s phone about 2 hours later. He immediately
started yelling, saying that they had been waiting there for and
hour and a half. As soon as he got that far, Chuck started saying
"where, where, where". He wouldn't acknowledge
him and kept ranting, saying "we've even had the police waiting here with us. So
you can file all the crap you want",
then he abruptly hung up. The whole time he was spouting his BS,
Chuck was getting louder and louder, asking "where are
you, you did not clearly tell me where you were, where are you?".
He never paused in his rambling and immediately hung up after he
got his line of BS out. It's was as if he was leaving a message
and Chuck didn't even exist on the other end of the line. Chuck
immediately tried to call him back, but he refused to answer. So,
Chuck called the Odessa Police Dept. to find out where they had
an officer on such a call so he could find him. He was told that
they do not do that and had no officers on a call like that.
However, they sent officers to his house to take a
report so he could file charges.
05/05/08
3:56pm
Chuck receives a call from "Randy" or "his guys"
via phone #469-288-3520:
Chuck received a call from 469-288-3520 at
3:56pm. When he answered, he was immediately told "we're in front of (purposely unintelligable
words) and you've got 1 hour to come get your sh*t, that's one
hour, and you better be packin' your attitude, you f*ckin' punk".
After Chuck asked "where did you say you were",
they hung up and IMMEDIATELY turned off the phone. Chuck left
message after message, telling them that he needed to know
exactly where they were and that he was ready to meet them. They
refused to call him back. Chuck also called the 702-589-6619# and
left message after message. That phone was also turned off. He
drove down all of the major streets in Odessa and the interstate
and "Randy" and the car were NOWHERE to be found!
05/03/08
Larry receives an email from "Randy"s supposed
"counsel":
Dear Larry,
I am the asst. legal counsel for Worldwide Auto Salvage. I will be over-seeing this matter from now on. Both Randy and I (along with several others in official capacity) agree that it is your voice on the recording left for Randy! No one needs to do business this way Sir.
By this action, your order will not be shipped on Monday hence. Whatever refund will be forwarded to you once we receive your mailing information in a timely manner. I suggest you cease and desist in any further nasty recordings. I would advise you to seek counsel before this matter goes further!
Bobby Dale Garrett
Asst. Legal Counsel
05/02/08
Chuck receives another email from Tom:
HI CHUCK: HERE'S THE
MAILING ADDRESS I WAS GIVEN BY "RANDY" W/ THE SUPPOSED
401'S. "3000 NORTH RANCHO, LAS
VEGAS, NV 89131". ALSO HERE IS THE " GREEN, T." AS
IT WAS ON MY CALLER ID EARLIER IN THE EVENING BEFORE
"RANDY" CALLED ME: (702)-520-1106. I DO NOT KNOW IF
THIS WAS A COINCIDENCE OR IF IT'S ANOTHER TEL. NO.
"RANDY" IS ATTEMPTING TO USE. ALSO, HERE'S A TELEPHONE
NUMBER THE LAST TIME RANDY CALLED ME: (702)-589-6619. I CALLED
THIS NUMBER TONIGHT (FRI) AT APPROX 6:30 P.M. MY TIME. HE DID NOT
ANSWER BUT IT ACCEPTED A MESSAGE AND I STATED IN IT: "MY
BANKER STATED I COULD GET THE MONEY FOR THE 401'S, PLEASE CALL ME
OR LEAVE A MESSAGE AS TO WHERE I CAN MAIL THE MONEY".....
SO HOPEFULLY HE WILL CALL ME BACK IN
SHORT TIME......I'M NOT A DETECTIVE BUT....I THINK IT WOULD BE
WISE TO LET HIM CONTACT ME BEFORE/IF ANYONE ELSE ATTEMPTS TO
CONTACT HIM. IF I CAN KEEP THIS PROCESS GOING, I BELIEVE THIS
SHOULD BE TO YOUR ADVANTAGE. HERE'S MY HOME TEL NO. IF YOU WANT
TO CONTACT ME FOR ANY REASON: (320)-230-0444.
HOPE THIS HELPS, TOM IN MINN. P.S.: I HAVE AN ANSWERING MACHINE TO ACCEPT HIS
MESSAGE....AND ALSO EQUIPMENT TO RECORD HIM IF I HAPPEN TO BE AT
HOME WHEN HE CALLS.
bdorn5352@charter.net
05/02/08
Chuck receives an email from Richard
after finding Chuck's ad
about the scam:
I didn't buy, but you can check this #
"Richard, the engines are 1971 401ci out of ex FBI cars.
they have from 67000
to 90,000mi.
you may call me anytine at 615-397-2756."
Richard Cicchino
Shock Sports Inc.
Shock Racing/Winex Helmets
125 E.Ball Rd Suite 250
Anaheim CA, 92805
Tel. 714-520-9992
Fax 714-520-8362
www.shocksports.com
richard@shockracing.com
The text in quotations is a message
from "Randy" to Richard.
05/02/08
Chuck receives an email from Mark
after finding Chuck's ad
about the scam:
i actually talked to this guy 3 times...i may
still have his number, he said he was in las vegas....
ill have to look, i am not even sure i still have it, his name
was tom, said he owned a famous nation wide auto parts network,
cant remember that either. Siad he paid teenage kids to sit on
computers and place ads on craiglist, as soon as he said he was
in Vegas, i said i was out, too much scamming and his story was
suspicious, i will look, mark
MPARKSMCE@aol.com
05/01/08
Larry receives a call from "Randy":
"Randy" said the engines should be
delivered to him next Tuesday. Larry tried to ask why
"Randy"s email address was not working. He said he
was getting a divorce and that his wife was messing with him by
canceling the addresses. He said dont worry everything
will still ship out ok. He said he was calling from Ohio
where he was delivering some parts. Larry tried to get more
info out of him but could not.
05/01/08
Chuck receives an email from Larry after finding Chuck's ad
about the scam:
Hi,
I purchased the 3 engines from him also. He said they
would be shipped may 5. I guess I got took too. I was
to call him today to make sure they would go out Monday. I have
not called yet, but will just to see what he says.
Larry
*
Chuck: Yes,
he talked me into the GreenDot refill. I bought 3
engines and a javelin he said he had........
*
.......He sold me the javelin
without the 4-speed that he sold to you. I also bought the 3
401s. I paid 3000 for everything. He told me that the
javelin was up against a fence and that it was behind 3 other
cars and it would take awhile to get it out. The javelin was
to be rust free and an original 4-speed car.......
.......I am in St.Louis, Mo., Larry
stl@radac.com
04/29/08
Gary receives another email from
"Randy":
some people play
games..don't be a pawn! Donald Trump! Everyone knows I had
three amcs. Duh! Not enough pieces to you game
either! Like I told you, I am sending (your) refund. The
other idiot gets a car! A word of advice. watch what you say
about people. If you're wrong, it could cost you
dearly. Get the black and white before you act stupid!
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
Notice that he starts by
insinuating that Chuck's claim that they both bought the same car
is a "game", but he goes on to say that one buyer will
get refunded and the other will get the car. That doesn't seem
necessary if he "had
three amcs. Duh!"!
04/29/08
Gary receives an email from "Randy":
Gary, I took this item off
craigs list the day we spoke. I don't have any idea what's
on craigs list, I wll not use them again. Too much shit.
People flag the item just because they can't get their way, or
they are not there to take their delivery. Now, as to your
accusations, if that is what you think..GO TO HELL!!! I am
sending you a refund. Good luck on finding another good
deal. Funny how our other customer got his chevy motor not
far from you!
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
04/29/08
Chuck receives an email from Gary after finding Chuck's ad
about the scam:
Would you believe I bought it also and he was
supposed to deliver it to me in Houston on 4/19/08. He has
not provided it. Please call me at 713-859-7249.
*
Bought the full car. His name was
Randy. Never got a last name. Was supposed to deliver
the car on Apr 19. That day came and went. He told me
his delivery guys tried to call me three times then left. I
never got a call from anyone.
Gary R. Parente
BLA-US/Global Production Operations
GSC-EMB-1015K
PH 713-656-6494
FAX 713-656-2726
E-mail: gary.r.parente@exxonmobil.com
04/25/08
Chuck receives an email from Jeff
after finding Chuck's ad
about the scam:
I have been in
conversations with him for several weeks about buying one but I
am having second thoughts after talking to him. He says he is in
Las Vegas and will ship for free. Wont accept a cashiers
check and wants money wired. Keeps giving me different dates for
shipping. I havent sent him any money. Jeff
Jeff.Youngkin@cobbcounty.org
04/25/08
Chuck receives an email from David
after finding Chuck's ad
about the scam:
I emailed the original ad and got a call back
from Randy at 702-589-6619, I think he said it was Worldwide Auto
Salvage.
glock20@gmail.com
04/25/08
Chuck receives an email from Kirk
after finding Chuck's ad
about the scam:
I talked to the guy about 1-month ago,said he
owned this nationwide trans company and just moved to tennessee
or somewhere.I asked him some questions and he said he new
everything about everything and new everyone who could get
it-wordwide.If you want any more info you can leave your tel #-I
would be happpy to call you back-unfortunatly it pr
kirk.thompson@earthlink.net
04/24/08
Chuck receives an email from "Randy":
Look dicksucker! I
told you when to expect delivery. Now, you want to go threaten
someone again...well...FUCK YOU, Now, we will let the powers that
be deal withit. Any further communication will be considered
harrassment and that adds to your pile! Have your attorney do
your talking from now on. You are an idiot! I have not read
any more of your rambling poems. Just saved them for future use.
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
04/23/08
Chuck receives another email from Tom:
HI
CHUCK: HE GAVE ME A FIRST NAME OF "RANDY" BUT I FORGOT
TO GET HIS LAST NAME, AND AT THIS POINT, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD
BE WISE TO ASK FOR IT. YES, HE TOLD ME THE OTHER NIGHT, HE STILL HAD ALL (3) OF THE
401'S, AND HE ALSO TOLD ME
FROM PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS, THAT ALL (3) HAD DUAL SNORKEL AIR
CLEANERS. HE TOLD ME A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO THAT ONE OF THEM
WAS STILL IN THE FORMER SQUAD CAR, AND WHEN I SPOKE TO HIM
SUNDAY, HE STATED, HE HAD PULLED THAT 401 OUT OF THE CAR. I'LL TRY TO "STRING HIM OUT"
AND ATTEMPT TO FIND MORE INFO FOR YOU.....NO, I DIDN'T SEND ANY
MONEY...STAY IN TOUCH. TOM IN MINN.
bdorn5352@charter.net
04/22/08
Chuck receives another email from Tom:
HI CHARLES: HERE'S
THE AZ TEL/MOBILE NUMBER GIVEN TO ME THAT WAS IN THE 401 AD, AND
I'M ASSUMING IT'S THE NUMBER YOU HAVE: (719)-423-0564. HE ALSO
GAVE ME A AZ ADDRESS: 3000 NORTH RANCHO DRIVE, LAS VEGAS,
89131. UNBELIEVABLY HE CALLED ME LAST NIGHT
(MON) AND ASKED
ME IF I STILL WANTED THE 401'S. I ASKED HIM TO BRING THEM TO COLORADO SPRINGS, CO
WHERE I HAVE A FRIEND TO INSPECT THEM...HE STATED THEY WERE STORED IN
CAMPO COLORADO WHICH IS
BY THE OKLAHOMA STATE LINE. HE ALSO STATED HE HAD A FRIEND THERE THAT HAD
SOME TYPE OF "PALLET" COMPANY. I MADE SMALL TALK FOR A WHILE AND HE'S SUPPOSED TO
CALL ME WITHIN A WEEK, I TOLD HIM I WAS GOING TO TALK TO MY
BANKER. I WILL TRY TO STAY IN CONTACT WITH HIM SO I CAN HELP YOU,
BUT PLEASE GIVE ME ANY OTHER INFO YOU HAVE ALSO. I SPOKE TO A
DETECTIVE HERE IN ST. CLOUD, MN AND HE INFORMED ME OF A SITE ON
THE INTERNET: "FONE
FINDER", TO POSSIBLY LOCATE WHO HAS THE PHONE NUMBER. I WILL
TRY TO "STRING THIS ALONG" AS LONG AS POSSIBLE TO
GATHER MORE INFO FOR YOU.......TOM.
bdorn5352@charter.net
04/21/08
Chuck receives an email from "Randy":
They called three (3)
ASSHOLE. Billy and Red will be there on the 5th of May. That will
give you the opportunity to call them liars to their face!!!
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
04/20/08
Chuck receives an email from "Randy":
I do appreciate your
rambling "BOOK" it does prove a good point for me. That
point is, that you have already made accusations and slandered my
name. Now, you want me to provide you with more info so you can
continue. "ARE YOU CRAZY?" The reason I don't talk to
idiots is clear enough herein. It is senseless! I am
"MAN" enough to do anything you have in mind! I
don't scare! Now, as to the phone records. When I get
them and if they don't prove you were called, I will fire two
assholes. On the other hand, if they are on there (and they will
be) I am not going to send you nothing! WHY? Because I want
your faggot-ass to make your accusations and cause your shit, so
I can provide them just in time to fuck your world! It is a funny
thing that another customer is willng to go to court and testify
that he got his shipment on time. Oh-yeah... he lives 42
miles from you! That will go over real good! So, take
your empty half-ass threats down the road. You will get
what you paid for and much, much more!! My guys will be back
through there on 5-5-08. I implore you to call them liars. The
next contact "as I said" should be from your atty.
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
04/20/08
Chuck files a case with the IC3, the FBI's internet fraud division:
Chuck's Complaint Id: I0804201712255752
Gary's Complaint Id: I0804291950445472
Larry's Complaint Id: I0805191403044132
04/20/08
Chuck receives an email from "Randy":
I havn't returned your call
because I generally don't talk to idiots. They piss me off and
shit happens. The libel, slander ASSHOLE comes from what ever
FALSE ACCUSATIONS you are going to make...only to look like a
fool. AFTER you have done your damage. After checking with
counsel, your threats are stupid. The Feds only get involved in
situations where the amount is greater than $20.000. Duh!
After seeing your stupidity I would not tell you anything.
WHAT? help you be stupid? at my expense. Have your
attorney email me, and I will give him all the infor he can
stand. In the meantime I have all your info and that is
something you need to consider. If the 5th of May passes and you
don't have your shit.. then bitch BITCH! In the meantime I
suggest you laydown-shut up and check on another phone co. I did.
Go ahead, I would love to turn this into a $50.000 deal!!!
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
04/20/08
Chuck receives an email from "Randy":
I have forwarded a copy of
your letter to my attorney, and I have been advised to let him
handle it from here on. Before you go running your mouth, you
need to contact an attorney and ask him to explane slander,
libel, and defamation of character. We will have the phone
records on monday. Then we will see. I guess I'm supposed to give
you all this INFORMATION to help you slander my name? Believe me,
I am tempted.
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
04/19/08
Chuck receives an email from "Randy":
One thing my guys are
not..and that's a liar. Your attitude leads me to believe that
either your phone isn't (like mine) working correctly, or you
jacked it and are trying to weasle out! Well, here's HOW it will
be done. "When" they get back, or as soon as their
phone record is available on line, I will confirm whether or not
they called you. You can take your "we're going to do it
this way" and stick it up your ass!
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
04/19/08
Chuck receives the first email from
Tom after finding Chuck's ad
about the scam:
READ YOUR EMAIL SCAM
ON THE 401 MOTORS. I ACTUALLY TALKED TO THE FELLOW AND I DO HAVE
AN ADDRESS HE GAVE ME, I DON'T KNOW HOW LEGIT IT IS BUT HE TOLD
ME HE WAS
MOVING TO COLORADO SPRINGS, COLORADO BECAUSE HE WAS GETTING
DIVORCED. I DAMN NEAR SENT
MONEY.....AND IT'S FUNNY, NOT REALLY BUT HE STATED TO ME: "
IF IN DOUBT DON'T", IN REFERENCE TO SENDING HIM MONEY. HE
ALSO WAS TELLING ME ABOUT OTHER BRAND MOTORS HE HAD SOLD AND ALSO SOME TYPE OF
"RACE" MOTOR HE SOLD.
IF YOU WANT THAT ADDRESS, I'LL GLADLY EMAIL IT TO YOU IF IT WILL
HELP ANYONE. THANK YOU.
*
CHARLES: SORRY TO
HEAR THE FELLOW W/ THE 401'S WAS A SCAMMER. ALSO, AS I WAS
TALKING TO HIM VIA TELEPHONE. HE INFORMED ME THAT EITHER HE OR BROTHER OR SOMEBODY
WAS IN THE MILITARY AND HE WAS SCAMMED BY SOMEONE ON TELEPHONE
(MOBILE) I BELIEVE, CONTRACTS AND THE PHONES DIDN'T WORK
PROPERELY...SO HE CONTACTED THIS PERSON IN THE MILITARY AND HE
GOT ADDRESSES, TEL. NO'S, AND ADDRESSES OF THE UPPER CEO'S IN
THIS COMPANY (CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE)....LONG STORY SHORT, HE
RAISED "HELL" WITH THEM, AND GOT HIS MONEY BACK. I'M NOT AT HOME RIGHT NOW, BUT I'LL EMAIL
YOU IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS WITH WHATEVER INFO I WROTE ON PAPER.
SORRY, AGAIN. TOM IN ST. CLOUD, MN.
bdorn5352@charter.net
04/19/08
Chuck receives an email from "Randy":
My guys were within two
hours of you. ..called, got no answer, and proceeded to East
Coast delivery. We will attempt delivery on the way back 4-30-08.
If this is not acceptable, we will issue a complete refund.
My phone is not working well either AT&T DUH!
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
04/19/08
Chuck decides to contact "Randy" from an alias email
address:
Chuck's
alias email through "Randy"s CraigsList ad at 11:55am: "Does
it run? How complete is the car? Thanks"
*
"Randy"s reply at 1:44pm: "I only have one engine and trans left. No car"
*
Chuck's
alias reply at 2:33pm: "Can I take a look at
it? Where is it located?"
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"Randy"s reply at 3:15pm: "Las Vegas NV, worldwideautosalvage@yahoo.com. (702) 589-6619"
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Chuck's
alias reply at 3:38pm: "My brother-in-law is
there on business. He said he could go by and take a look at it
for me. Also, if it looks like it'll do the job, he can pay for
it while he's there. I guess it'll have to be freight shipped
afterwards, if that's what you recommend. What address is it at
and what would be a good day and time for him to
see it?"
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"Randy"s reply at 4:58pm: "This item was sold earlier. Check back later. We
may have another."
04/19/08
Chuck gets suspicious after waiting
most of the day, starts checking CraigsList and finds:
"Randy"s other ad in Atlanta:
AMC 401
engine/trans low miles 335hp 1971 model. In vehicle. will deliver
free. magnumenterprisesinc@yahoo.com
And "Randy"s 3rd ad in Denver:
401 AMC engine and
trans (have 3) out of 71 AMC Ambass. FBI car, 335 Factorty hp.
aprox. 67000miles. Delivery available.
Autotransportersofamerica@yahoo.com. (719) 423-0564.
It is
discovered later that he had another ad on the Indianapolis
CraigsList:
http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/pts/630327202.html
04/19/08
Chuck and Gary wait for their delivery of the
same car:
Chuck
and Gary wait for the delivery that never comes. Both were by
their phones all day and never received or missed a call from
"Randy" or "his guys".
04/09/08
Chuck pays "Randy":
As instructed by "Randy", Chuck goes to
WalMart and purchases a GreenDot MoneyPak
refill in the amount of $950, which covers the purchase of the
'71 Ambassador FBI car, with it's drivetrain, and a 4-speed
transmisssion. Chuck provides the MoneyPak activation # to
"Randy". "Randy" states that the car and transmission will be delivered to him
on 04/19/08. He states that "his guys" will call
Chuck when they are about 2 hours away, so Chuck has time to
prepare.
04/09/08
Chuck calls "Randy" at 702-589-6619:
"Randy" states that the motor mentioned
in the ad is still in the car. He states that Chuck can either
pay for freight or, if he can wait until the 19th, the motor can
be delivered for free. He goes on to say that the car has a posi
rear end and Chuck can have the whole car and rear end at the
same price if he's willing to save "Randy" the trouble
of pulling the motor and trans and having the useless car left
over. Chuck agrees that he can take the whole car so he can get
the rear end. "Randy" states that he
was formerly a member of an AMC club, has allot of spare
parts laying around and comes across AMC parts frequently if
Chuck needs anything else. Chuck asks about a 4-speed manual
transmission for an AMX. "Randy" says that he has one
and Chuck can have it for an additional $250. Chuck agrees to
purchase the complete car and the 4-speed transmission.
"Randy" suggests that Chuck pay by WalMart's GreenDot MoneyPak refill service,
so he can save on the money transfer charges.
04/09/08
Chuck receives a 4th email from
"Randy":
Call me. (702) 589-6619
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
In response to Chuck's email:
Sounds good. How would you like to
handle the transaction?
04/09/08
Chuck receives a 3rd email from
"Randy":
when they are paid
for! Have two already out!
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
In response to Chuck's email:
I would like to buy them. When do you
plan on pulling them out?
04/09/08
Chuck receives a 2nd email from
"Randy":
100% complete, 68K 727
trans, have 3 of these, worldwideautosalvage@yahoo.com, or (702) 589-6619. Shipping over 500.00 is
free. Randy
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
In response to Chuck's email:
How complete is the motor? What
trans?
04/09/08
Chuck receives an email from "Randy":
In a car running (68000mi)
727 TF.
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
In response to Chuck's email:
How complete is the motor? What
trans?
04/09/08
Chuck contacts "Randy" about his ad on the
Dallas CraigsList that stated:
401 AMC motor and
trans...68,000mi 1971 ambassador FBI car. 335 factory hp. e-mail,
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com
http://dallas.craigslist.org/pts/629554295.html
Chuck's Info:
$950 victim of "Randy" - Bought '71 Ambassador
w/Drivetrain & 4-speed
Charles
Hughes
Odessa, TX
IC3 case # I0804201712255752
chughes@grandecom.net
432-552-7424
432-352-7424
Gary's Info:
$700 victim of "Randy" - Bought '71 Ambassador
w/Drivetrain
Gary R.
Parente
Houston, TX
IC3 case # I0804291950445472
grparen@earthlink.net
713-656-6494
Larry's Info:
$3,000 victim of "Randy" - Bought All 3 401 motors
and a Javelin
Larry
St. Louis, MO
IC3 case # I0805191403044132
stl@radac.com
"Randy"s Info:
"Randy" with "Worldwide Auto Salvage" - Names used on this scam
"Michael Joey
Wright" of Frankfort/Lexington, KY - POSSIBLE ACTUAL IDENTITY
455 Jones Ln., Frankfort, KY 40601 | -
Previous address of "Michael Joey Wright" Residence of his relative, Michael W. Wright |
"Michael Knight" - possible alias
"Michael Barlow" - possible alias
"Ray" - possible alias
"Ken Summers" or "Sommers" or "Sumners" - possible alias
3000 North
Rancho Dr Las Vegas, NV 89131 |
- Address used on this scam |
702-589-6619 - shows to be in Las Vegas, NV
719-423-0564 - shows to be in Pueblo, CO (now
disconnected)
615-397-2756 - shows to be in Nashville, TN (now
disconnected)
469-288-3520 - shows to be in Dallas, TX (now
disconnected)
Autotransportersofamerica@yahoo.com (cancelled)
rockymountainexpressco@yahoo.com (cancelled)
magnumenterprisesinc@yahoo.com (cancelled)
His "legal counsel" is "Bobby Dale Garrett" at bobbydalegarrett@yahoo.com .
Suposedly, "Randy"(aka "Michael Knight") got busted in Jefferson County, Kentucky for this same scam about 10 years ago.
Jefferson
County/Louisville, KY is 55 miles from Frankfort, KY,
where Michael Joey
Wright lives.